Book Of Mormon - 3 Nephi 29:4-7

In almost every Biology and Cell Biology class, whether in high school or college, Charles Darwin is glorified as a hero. When Charles Darwin came out with his first book about the theory of evolution in November of 1859, Darwin had no clue that DNA existed!!! While Darwin did know a little about cells, he knew absolutely nothing about what was going on inside of cells!!!

Today, many years later, there are many very smart people who have a PhD degree in either Cell Biology or Microbiology or Genetics!!! Darwin would not have understood anything in any of these classes!!

But aside from cells and DNA, the big issue in the evolution debate is about God and whether Adam and Eve were real people!!! Did humans "evolve" from some other primate, such as monkeys, bonobos or chimpanzees or did God create Adam and Eve as all religions claim???

As scientists slowly learn more and more about the sophistication of DNA, cells and astronomy, is this new evidence supporting Darwin's claims or is this new evidence lowering Darwin's theories into a doctrinal grave??? Obviously they make the theory of evolution look worse and worse.

Before going on we need to talk about the word "evolution" itself. You hear all the time that humans "evolved" from monkeys or some other primate. But there is a serious problem with the word "evolution." The word "evolution" does not represent a tangible object, it only represents a belief inside of people's heads that humans "evolved" from some other primate.

Just like a Superman comic book, the word "evolution" generates emotions, but in and of itself, neither Suprman nor Batman nor evolution represent a tangible object that can, as one example, physcially change the sequence of nucleotides on a DNA strand or create new types of cells for a new species of animal. For example, humans have 326 different kinds of cells and the correct type of cell must be in each cell location within a person's body.

So if there is no God, as the atheists and evolutionists claim, and if neither Superman nor the imaginary theory of evolution can screw in a lightbulb, then where did we humans come from???

There is only one answer: accidents!!! The atheists and evolutionists must claim that we exist because of God or because of accidents. Neither "evolution" nor Superman nor Batman are options because they do not represent a tangible object than can affect other tangible things, such as DNA or cells.

With this background, it is time to discuss the real issue of this article, four key versus in the Book of Mormon which are heavily focused on people who are alive today!!!!

 


A Test For LDS Scholars Or Anyone Else

Suppose I were to ask any scholar in the LDS church headquarters in Salt Lake City, Utah or at BYU in Provo, Utah, this question: "how many different degrees of heaven and hell are there"??? Every one of them would give the same answer: 4:
1) Celestial Kingdom
2) Terrestrial Kingdom
3) Telestial Kingdom
4) Son of Perdition (which only applies to members of the LDS church)

Well, that is the wrong answer, the correct answer is 5!!!
1) Celestial Kingdom
2) Terrestrial Kingdom
3) Telestial Kingdom
4) Like Unto The Son Of Perdition
5) Son of Perdition (which only applies to members of the LDS church)

So what is the "like unto the son of perdition" category??? That is the main topic of this article.

 


An Observation About The Sophistication of 3 Nephi 29:4-7 In The Book Of Mormon

The Book of Mormon, like the Bible, is an ancient text written by ancient prophets. However, most of the prophets mentioned in the Book of Mormon lived in the Americas. While their civilization started in Jerusalem, the prophet Lehi brought his family and others over to America in about 600 B.C.!!!

Hundreds of years later, shortly after the resurrection of Christ, in about 34 A. D., the Savior Jesus Christ came to America to visit his "sheep" in America. See the Book of Mormon, 3 Nephi 16 (the Savior is speaking when He first arrives in America):
Book Of Mormon - 3 Nephi 16

The Book Of Mormon is one of the "standard works" in the Mormon (i.e. The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints) church, which means that it was originally written by true prophets of God. In the case of the Book of Mormon, most of these prophets lived in the Americas long before Columbus arrived here in 1492. In fact, the versus I quote were probably originally written in about 355 A.D.!!!

Some of the descendants of the Book of Mormon people who came to America are called American Indians. But this was after many, many wars.

It is the prophets of these ancient people who wrote the Book of Mormon before all of the "white people" from Jerusalem died off or were killed off or the last prophet (whose name was Moroni), was probably translated, meaning taken into heaven without tasting death.

Let me give you an example of how incredibly precise the Book Of Mormon is for us today. I will start by talking about 4 versus in the Book of Mormon: 3 Nephi 29:4-7. It is the incredible accuracy of these four versus that I will talk about in this article.

Note: the word "spurn" means to: reject with disdain or contempt.

Here are 4 versus in the Book of Mormon: 3 Nephi 29:4-7. In these versus the prophet Nephi is clearly talking to the people in our day:

4 And when ye shall see these sayings coming forth among you, then ye need not any longer spurn at the doings of the Lord, for the sword of his justice is in his right hand; and behold, at that day, if ye shall spurn at his doings he will cause that it shall soon overtake you.

5 Wo unto him that spurneth at the doings of the Lord; yea, wo unto him that shall deny the Christ and his works!

6 Yea, wo unto him that shall deny the revelations of the Lord, and that shall say the Lord no longer worketh by revelation, or by prophecy, or by gifts, or by tongues, or by healings, or by the power of the Holy Ghost!

7 Yea, and wo unto him that shall say at that day, to get gain, that there can be no miracle wrought by Jesus Christ; for he that doeth this shall become like unto the son of perdition, for whom there was no mercy, according to the word of Christ!".

You can hopefully see these versus online (non-members of the LDS church may be blocked from seeing some things on the church's main website, but it is rare when non-members are blocked from reading the scriptures):
Book Of Mormon: 3 Nephi 29:4-7

These are the versus I want to talk about because they are essentially a prophesy about people who would live in the last days, which we are in!!!

For Latter-Day Saints the punishment of being a Son of Perdition is the worst possible punishment and it applies only to Latter-Day Saints. So I would assume that the punishment of Like Unto The Son Of Perdition would be the worst possible punishment for non-members of the church!!!

You can also look at these four versus as a prophesy about what one kind of people would exist in the last days!!! In other words, these versus are for Americans who are alive TODAY. I don't know what is going on in other countries with regards to the theory of evolution.

 


Why Didn't Nephi Say That There Would Be People In Our Day Who Would Claim That Christ Never Existed???

Why didn't Nephi (the Nephi who wrote the book of 3 Nephi who lived in the fourth century A.D. in America) say that the atheists and evolutionists in our day would claim that Christ never existed instead of saying that Christ did not perform any miracles, which implies that Christ existed???

Let me repeat that because it is the core of this article:

Why didn't Nephi (the Nephi who wrote the book of 3 Nephi who lived in the fourth century A.D. in America) say that the atheists and evolutionists in our day would claim that Christ never existed instead of saying that Christ did not perform any miracles???

The reason is that God knew (and thus His prophet Nephi knew) that the people in the last days would have plenty of evidences that Christ existed - even other than the Bible!!! So there was no reason for Nephi to say that people in the last days would question that Christ existed!!! Anyone who claims that Christ did not exist needs to do their homework.

Let's look at some of the evidence that Christ was a real person.

 


Evidences That Christ Existed Other Than From The Bible

This section has eight different articles (one of which is a YouTube video) that talk about ancient evidences that Christ existed (e.g. miracles or the word Messiah can be found).

First, see this very excellent website by creationist William Land Craig:
First Article: Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources" by Michael Gleghorn

Debate: Here is a two and a half hour YouTube debate between William Lane Craig (a Chrisitan) and the late Christopher Hitchens (an obnoxious and arrogant atheist who died in 2011):
Second - A YouTube Debate: Does God Exist? William Lane Craig vs. Christopher Hitchens - Full Debate [HD]

Here is another excellent article on this subject:
Third Article: What's the evidence ouside the Bible for Jesus life and teachings

Here is Part 1 on a website on this subject:
Fourth Article: Jesus Outside the Bible: Part 1 – Historical Silence

Here is Part 2 on the same website:
Fifth Article: Jesus Outside the Bible: Part 2 – Flavius Josephus

Here is Part 3 on the same website (this article has a HUGH LIST, but not all of these ancient writers mentioned Christ):
Sixth Article: Jesus Outside the Bible: Part 3 – Pliny, Tacitus and Suetonius

And I am sure that there are many more ancient evidences that Christ was a real person!!!

Here is an article by William Lane Craig, who is a very well-known creation scientist!!! But his approch is a little different:
Seventh Article: The Evidence for Christianity - William Lane Craig

Also see this web page by the same author from non-Chrisitan sources:
Eighth Article: The Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources - Michael Gleghorn

 


Here Is The List Of Individuals Or Documents From Multiple Sources (Some Redundancy)

Aulus Perseus (60 CE)
Babylon Talmud
Columella (1st cent. CE)
Dio Chrysostom (c. 40 – 112 CE)
Irenaeus
Justus of Tiberius (c. 80 CE)
Livy (59 BCE – 17 CE)
Lucanus (fl. 63 CE) (same as Lucanus?? or Lucius Florus??)
Lucian
Lucanus (fl. 63 CE) (same as Lucanus?? or Lucius Florus??)
Josephus
Justus of Tiberius (c. 80 CE)
Livy (59 BCE - 17 CE)
Lucanus (fl. 63 CE) (same as Lucanus?? or Lucius Flous??)
Lucius Florus (1st – 2nd cent. CE)
Livy (59 BCE - 17 CE)
Petronius (d. 66 CE)
Phaedrus (c. 15 BCE – 50 CE)
Philo Judaeus (20 BCE – 50 CE)
Phlegon (1st cent. CE)
Pliny the Elder (23 – 69 CE)
Pliny the Younger (very revered teacher)
Plutarch (c. 46 – 119 CE)
Pomponius Mela (40 CE)
Quintilian (c. 35 – 100 CE)
Quintus Curtius (1st cent. CE)
Rufus Curtius (1st cent. CE)
Seneca (1 BCE – 65 CE)
Silius Italicus (c. 25 – 101 CE)
Statius Caelicius (1st cent. CE)
Tacitus
Talmud
Theon of Smyrna (c. 70 – 135 CE)
Valerius Flaccus (1st cent. CE)
Valerius Maximus (fl. c. 20 CE)

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https://faculty.georgetown.edu/jod/texts/pliny.html (Copy and Paste)

I think these are names of documents or writers who lived in the correct timeframe.

Talmud (religious text of Judism)
Josephus (probably the best known, mentioned above)
Tacitus (mentioned above)
Eusebius
Justin Martyr
Theophilus

 


What Kind Of People Today Might Qualify To Become "Like Unto The Son Of Perdition" In The Last Days???

Because the atheists and evolutionists today cannot claim that Christ did not exist how could they attack Christianity???!!! The only thing that is left for them to attack the savior is to claim that Christ was not a God and that the scriptures were wrong and thus to claim that Christ did not perform any miracles!!!!

That is precisely what the Book of Mormon predicted would happen in the last days (where we are right now)!!!!!!

It just blows me away at how accurate the versus in 3 Nephi 29 are!!! Heavenly Father knew, in about 355 A.D. (shortly before the last Book of Mormon prophet completed the Book of Mormon in 421 A.D.), that people in the latter-days would have many evidences (other than the Bible) that Christ did in fact exist and Heavenly Father knew that the only thing the atheists and evolutionists could say in our day, in order to criticize Christ and His followers, was to say that the Bible was wrong and that Christ did not perform any miracles!!!

Every once in awhile I will stop things and make a comment about Heavenly Father. He was and is and always will be AMAZING!!! Of course, so was and is the Savior and the Holy Ghost. All three of them are Gods.

Getting back to 3 Nephi 29:4-7, a person might wonder who might qualify for the Like Unto the Son of Perdition category. Their first guess might be Hitler or Stalin or Mao Zedong. But that is not correct!!!!

If you look at the criteria it is very clear that the scriptures were talking about professional atheists and evolutionists, who mock the miracles of Christ, and thus may qualify for that punishment. The key is that these are professional atheists and evolutionists (i.e. "to get gain") who do these things. So I seriously doubt that students, even college students, and teachers could qualify (that is very, very fortunate for them).

I theorize that these versus are most likely to apply to people like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett and the late Christopher Hitchens who all made significant amounts of their income from pushing the theory of evolution (e.g. getting paid for writing books, giving lectures, participating in debates, etc) and in the process they all mocked the miracles of Christ (I personally researched this). Perhaps hundreds of other professional atheists and evolutionists may be at risk for that punishment.

In a speech given at Brigham Young University Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, a current member of the Quorum Of The Twelve Apostles in the church, talked about the history of the word "religion" and he talked about the word "secularism". While those were the two main categories he talked about, at one brief moment he changed the subject and made this statement (look for the word "religion"):

  • "But of course not everyone agrees that religion does or should play such an essential role in civilized society. Recently the gloves have come off in the intellectual street fighting being waged under the banner of the “New Atheists.” Figures like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and the late Christopher Hitchens are some of the stars in what is, for me, a dim firmament.

    These men are as free to express their beliefs — or, in their case, ­ disbeliefs — as any other, but we feel about them what one Oxford don said about a colleague: “On the surface, he’s profound, but deep down, he’s [pretty] superficial
    Speech At BYU: Bound By Loving Ties

Richard Dawkins, who Elder Holland mentioned, is the author of several books, one of which is called The God Delusion. In this book Dawkins attacks a belief in God and a belief in the miracles of God.

 


Others Who Might Fit Into The "Like Unto The Son Of Perdition" Category

Here is a website with the "50 Top Atheists in the World Today" and some of them may fit into the category we have been talking about:
50 Top Atheists in the World Today (Dawkins is #7 and Hitchens is #10)

Note that Dawkins is #7 in the first list and Dennett is #5 in the first list.

Note that Sam Harris is #7 in the second list and the late and obnoxious/arrogant Hitchens is #4 in the second list.

There is very little difference between an "atheist" and an "evolutionist." Both claim that there is no god, both claim that Adam and Eve never existed and both claim that humans "evolved" from some other primate.

But whether a person crosses the line into the realm of the like unto the son of perdition category is solely the decision of God. We can do the research and make guesses (of course God knows a lot more than we know, such as motive) but ultimately it is God alone who will determine who "crosses the line."

I cannot imagine a case where this category would apply to a high school student or a high school teacher or even a college student or a college teacher; these versus seem to apply only to the professional atheists and evolutionists who make a significant part of their living critizing the teachings in the Bible. But only God can make the final judgment!! In addition, even some people who come close to qualifying may repent in time to avoid the punishment.

What I want to emphasize is that these three versus indicate the seriousness that God takes regarding those who push the theory of evolution (for profit) and in turn, for profit they mock the claims in the Bible such as the miracles of the Savior Jesus Christ!!!

And we don't know how many of these kinds of people will cross the line by the time of the Second Coming!!!

Here is another list, but this time it is evolutionists and this is only a small sample:
List Of Top 10 Evolutionary Biologists In History

And the Book of Mormon, from which these four versus in 3 Nephi came, was completed in 421 A.D. but was not translated and published until 1830. But this year was before Charles Darwin published his first evolution book in 1859!!! God was predicting these things before the theory of evolution even existed and even longer before people like Richard Dawkins existed!!!

 


Doctrines Which Are The Exact Opposite Of Key LDS Doctrines

Suppose you made a spreadsheet and in column one were the doctrines of the LDS church:
1) Heavely Father is the God over all,
2) Jesus Christ is in the Godhead and He was and is and always will be the Savior of the world and He is next to Heavenly Father in authority,
3) The Holy Ghost is also a member of the Godhead and He has many very important functions in the church,
4) There is a living prophet on the earth. Actually there are 15 living prophets on this earth at any given time,
5) And so on.

Now suppose you listed the the exact opposite of the first list. It would look like this:
1) The claim there is no God (i.e. that Heavenly Father is the head God in the Godhead),
2) No one can claim that Christ did not exist, so they can only claim that Christ did not perform any miracles to indicate that there was no Godhead,
3) They claim there is no Holy Ghost and thus claim there are no revelations in the church,
4) Without the Godhead there cannot be any prophets,
5) An so on.

We have to be very, very, very careful about claiming that the Holy Ghost does not exist for reasons I won't get into. But trust me, the Holy Ghost does exist and quite frankly He has made a massive, massive number of contributions to this website!!! To put it mildly, He is the co-author of this website!!! Well, maybe I am the co-author!!! He is that good!!!

Note that item #2 in the second list is EXACTLY what Nephi predicted would happen in the Book of Mormon in the last days!!!! In other words the atheists and ervolutionists cannot deny that Christ was a real person, so they can only deny His Divinity!!!

Well, as I, and millions of others, can clearly testify, we know that all three members of the Godhead are very much alive and well and they truly are Gods and they truly are our best friends - trust me!!!

An early apostle in the LDS church, who was ordained an apostle by Brigham Young, President George Q. Cannon, stated this about the nature of God (which would also apply to Christ and the Holy Ghost just as well):

  • “No matter how serious the trial, how deep the distress, how great the affliction, [God] will never desert us. He never has, and He never will. He cannot do it. It is [against] His character [to do so]. He is an unchangeable being. … He will stand by us. We may pass through the fiery furnace; we may pass through deep waters; but we shall not be consumed nor overwhelmed. We shall emerge from all these trials and difficulties the better and the purer for them, if we only trust in our God and keep His commandments.”
    "Freedom of the Saints," in Collected Discourses, comp. by Brian H. Stuy, 5 vols. [1987-92], 2:185

That is the God that members of the LDS church (i.e. Latter-Day Saint church or Mormon church) worship!!! And quite frankly I suspect that all Christians believe in a super-intelligent God who loves His children. So we are not alone.

 


Final Comments

The Book of Mormon was written anciently, but it was first published in America in 1830!!! 3 Nephi chapter 29 is an incredible testimony as to the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon because it talks about people who are alive today (the year 2021) and will continue to be alive and over time new people will enter the pro-evolution and pro-atheism fields!!!

 


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